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Nudony
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Posted - 01/31/2006 : 8:08:01 PM
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That is why a lot of people prefer home-nudism or nudism with a small, close circle of friends. Not having to worry about how they're sitting, how they relate to their mate physically or how candidly they express themselves can be worth giving up resort nudism for these people. Nothing wrong with that.
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Cookie
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 Posted - 02/01/2006 : 4:08:53 PM
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Dear Nudony:
My wife and I visit travel to all diff nudist resorts in the country and enjoy ourselves, no matter where we maybe, and certainly play by the rules of each venue.
But we also have a circle of nudist friends who entertain at our home and also visit their homes, and he have lots of good clean fun.
This weekend being Super Bowl Weekend, we are traveling down to Conn. to some nudist friends home along with approx 6 other couples, and before the game starts, we will all be running to and fro from the hot tub.
Last year we did the same thing at an other couples home and we all watched the Super Bowl
"NUDE"!
We had a blast!!!
Go Seahawks!!!!
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FireProf
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 Posted - 02/01/2006 : 10:02:40 PM
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I think we, nudists and nudist venue owners and managers, can become too restrictive when it comes to restricting Public Displays of Affection (PDA's).
My wife asks me to apply sunscreen to her back when we're out sunning at a resort or the beach. I find myself applying this sunscreen so quickly and in such a non-loving manner because I don't want anyone thinking we are getting too friendly with each other.
I don't see anything wrong with applying sunscreen to the Prof's butt,legs and back slowly, deliberately and evenly so we minimize the risk of sunburn. No one seems to mind until I get to the buttocks and then all heads turn to watch. I think we just get to paranoid about what might happen and react instead of waiting til it happens then take action, like telling those getting too friendly that their actions are inappropriate for the setting or environment.
Other signs of affection should not be taboo as well. I don't see anything wrong with kissing the Prof in a nudist setting. I don't see anything wrong with patting her on the butt, putting my arms around her waist, hugging her or even her sitting on my lap. I don't think we need to be as paranoid as we tend to be.
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Elrin
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Posted - 02/02/2006 : 9:53:55 PM
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From what I've seen here, and on other forums like this, it seems like there is a trend: Nudists - espcially those in "charge", being a bit more paranoid than neccesary - not because they mean to be nasty, but because they care, and don't want a bad name or image of themselves to go out into the world.
I was in a similar situation when I ran a movie-club a few years ago. We showed overseas movies that were not brought in by the big distributors. We asked permission from the copyright holders, and had an agreement with the ratings board (renamed from the censor board). However, we were extra-carefull - more than really neccesary, because there were others out there who used the excuse of holding "screenings" to copy movies. We did not want to be associated with those "bad guys".
I nudism, I think the same happens. There are certain people who unfortunately do seriously offend people in the general public, and cause politicians to worry and make a big fuss. As I see it, nudists are therefore trying extra hard to say: "We're not like that!"
However, I believe there is a balance that needs to be maintained, or there will be an eventual backlash. If a devoted couple cannot show simple affection to each other in the same way they can in a clothed environment, I believe things are not quite right. Yes, I'm still a newlywed, but I feel it is important to be able to show some affection towards her, and fully intend to build and maintain that habit. I think it is wonderful to see an 80-year old couple holding hands, hugging - clearly still as much in love as when they were married. Call me naive if you wish, but I feel that if a society (or any sub-division thereof) does not allow that kind of nurturing, positive behaviour, it just cannot be good in the long term.
With tongue-in-cheek, here's a few simple examples of showing affection I'm not sure I'd be allowed to do nude, but certainly do have no problem doing clothed:
Can I give her a decent hug while we are sitting down somewhere?
May I give my wife a piggy-back ride when she's tired?
Can I stroke her knee while sitting down to dinner?
May I blow into her ear or give her a kiss?
Can she sit in my lap with me holding her?
Can she rub my chest and shoulders?
Can we give each other a shoulder/foot/face/back massage?
All of these things, I feel I can, and have done while clothed without feeling I'm doing something offending. I have done most of these in countries that traditionally don't even allow couples to touch each other 1 generation ago. Are they sexual? Depends on your viewpoint I guess, but to us, these things are ways of showing that we care, that we appreciate each other.
So - can I do these things nude without getting in trouble at your club/beach?
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FireProf
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Posted - 02/03/2006 : 12:28:04 PM
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Of the 7 things you listed, I'd say..........I don't see any problem with doing any of them nor do I think you'll be reprimanded or asked to leave for doing them.
Just my opinion and from what I've seen at various resorts we've been to, many others have done those very things and have not had a problem.
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Elrin
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Posted - 02/03/2006 : 9:37:57 PM
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If what you say is indeed the case FireProf, I am very glad to know that!
I must admit that I sometimes get very mixed ideas in my mind as to what people really think about this issue. Guess it's because there are different strokes for different folks... 
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solarianus
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Posted - 07/08/2006 : 1:54:56 PM
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I've got to agree with Elrin and FireProf. The entire point of a nude beach is to be more comfortable......if you are actually less comfortable there, then there is no point in even having a nude beach. you might as well go down a couple miles....put swimsuits on, but actually be able to rub each other's shoulders or apply sunscreen.
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naturist58
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Posted - 01/21/2008 : 11:29:26 PM
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Elrin, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who dotes on his spouse & uses every waking moment doing so. I am almost 64 & my wife (married just 2 yrs) is 51. We are at the lanes for like 3 hrs twice a week on leagues & I hold her, kiss her, rub her legs, etc. in full view of anyone & everyone & have absolutely no one I feel it's necessary to apologize to. I would do the same things while nude in any resort or beach and dare anyone to tell me it's inappropriate. The only difference (the one thing I do at the lanes that I would not do while nude around other nudists) is occasionally trying to cop a feel under the table, something no one sees or is even aware of. Discretion is observed most of the time but it's not much fun. LOL John
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 2:49:30 PM
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NRO is a place for opinions, and I’m putting mine out here whether or not it’s popular. I’m not one to be dictated to about my behavior or to keep quiet when I think someone else is having his or hers brought unfairly into question. I have nothing to feel guilty about with regard to how I relate to someone I care for. And I’m sick to death of people pontificating and trying to lord over and rule others and direct their personal behavior. That’s done quite enough by 75% of the world’s governments.
I’m going back to the start here:
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Originally posted by Marco
Is it genrally ok to show affection to your partner on a nudist beach. We often kiss and hug and sometimes stroke each others bodies we never do anything sexual but are just loving
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Originally posted by spadoc
In a word...NO!!! Any conduct that is sexual in nature is rude and gives the authorities an excuse to close down the beaches. I am sure you can control yourselves until you get home or to a private place. I for one don't care to watch.
In a word…YES!!!
Who died and made you king? Marco did not say he was fondling. He did say: kiss, hug & stroke. Stroke can mean an arm, leg, hand, forearm, shoulder, neck, face, I could go on forever. He also said “we never do anything sexual but are just loving.” So don’t be so presumptuous as to assume that he means anything more. Marco specifically stated that his touch was not of a sexual nature. Any attempt to repress someone’s simple expression of love, affection and emotion is not only rude, it’s also deplorable. Is it so horrible to see two people in love and showing kindness and affection? Does it make one who’s lacking those things in his/her own life want them for one’s self or does it embarrass? Then look away. The alternatives would be to witness selfishness, indifference, coldness and distance. Anyone who thinks that simple displays of public affection are inappropriate, shocking and provocative, should leave the nudist world and put on sackcloth or maybe a burka that covers the shameful face as well.
Everyone wants more women involved, but they’re ashamed or afraid to allow a pleasant aspect of human nature that all real women and all real men love, into our environment.
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Diger
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 5:43:58 PM
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Randy,
Couldn't agree more, we are affectionate at the nude beach, just as we are at the textile beach. We can even be a little playful at times, and this can all be done without crossing the line of sexual behavior.
Diger
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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 5:45:40 PM
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Can't we all just admit that we're sexual creatures, that there is a place in this world for sexuality and that kind of affection, and that the place for it is not out in the open at a nudist/ clothing optional venue? Further, can't we accept that people can be loving toward each other in non-sexual ways without it being a federal crime? Golly, this isn't rocket science, is it????
Melissa
ps- Maybe it's just been a long day with the kids and I'm seeing things in black and white by now, but this one just seems obvious to me
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 8:15:34 PM
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I couldn't agree with you more Melissa! Affection is not a federal crime.
I just take exception with those finger pointers and shakers who aren't smart enough to know the difference between having sex and displays of affection, like hugging and holding hands. I've even heard some of them who seem to think they can dictate the number of seconds they will allow a hug to be held- really!
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whitey100
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 8:54:31 PM
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Melissa.....I'm not sure of your position when you said "Can't we all just admit that we're sexual creatures, that there is a place in this world for sexuality and that kind of affection, and that the place for it is not out in the open at a nudist/ clothing optional venue? Further, can't we accept that people can be loving toward each other in non-sexual ways without it being a federal crime? Golly, this isn't rocket science, is it????"
First it seems that you think "affection" is out of place at a nude resort. Then,in the next sentence you seem to feel that expressions of love in "non-sexual" ways should be acceptable.
Where DOyou stand on this issue?
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melissastarr
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Posted - 01/22/2008 : 9:20:34 PM
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I think I said sexual kind of affection shouldn't be allowed in the open at a nudist venue.... I thought that was clear. If not, let me be clear about that now by stating so in the previous sentence. Affection is fine, it's just the sexual affection that should be behind closed-doors, whether in nudist or clothed environments. Like I said, it's not rocket science. I thought I spoke pretty clearly.
Melissa
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Phydeau
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Posted - 01/23/2008 : 12:22:26 AM
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Originally posted by melissastarr
I think I said sexual kind of affection shouldn't be allowed in the open at a nudist venue.... I thought that was clear. If not, let me be clear about that now by stating so in the previous sentence. Affection is fine, it's just the sexual affection that should be behind closed-doors, whether in nudist or clothed environments. Like I said, it's not rocket science. I thought I spoke pretty clearly.
Melissa
I heard you loud and clear. If I could paraphrase, you said something along the lines of "PDA's have nothing to do with clothes. The one's that are acceptable in the textile world should be fine, and the ones that go too far in the textile world should likewise be kept private". You also touched on the fact that just because naturism has nothing to do with sex, it doesn't mean nudists have all somehow become asexual.
Apparently, rocket science is the new brain surgery.
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