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nudeisntlewd
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 Posted - 08/15/2004 : 10:08:04 PM
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this is not to disparage those honest believers; but they are few and far between.
We're not as few and not as far between as you might think. I think the problem is that we're less visible. The vocal ones, the ones you see on TV and then on the news with scandals exposed and the holier-than-thou who love to point fingers and judge are the ones that I think most people equate with Christianity (as well as other religions). Also, right thinking admits that we have the same shortcomings, greeds and lusts as everyone else, and that's why we all need our various faiths.
I don't want to sound like I'm on a soap box or insulted. I just don't like to be categorized any more than blacks, asians, hispanics or Jews, Muslims, Buddists or any number of other groups do.
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calmnude
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Posted - 08/16/2004 : 07:16:56 AM
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randy,
know there are sincere believers everywhere. and there are foks of every creed who use it as justification for persecuting those who disagree with them. rather than living one's life by the teachings of their chosen life philosophy, imposition of one's beliefs sometimes supercedes the philosophy.
if i offended, i apologize. it s just that zealots and belief for convenience or personal gain irritate me a lot. and the issue i brought up is just one of them.
peace.
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nudeisntlewd
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Posted - 08/16/2004 : 12:56:16 PM
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No offense taken, my friend. I just thought it was a good time to speak up. Seems like the only ones you usually hear from are the religious zealots or the anti-religion people. (Some of) the over-zealous give the rest of us quieter ones a bad name, and they're not doing our cause or theirs any good at all. Just harm.
Randy
P.S. They irritate me too. I always say: "The Bible is not a salad bar." Too many people pick and choose which parts they like and which they don't.
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Jochanaan
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Posted - 08/20/2004 : 6:11:38 PM
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Originally posted by Dave
 I live in the "Bible belt" and yes sex does sell, nudity is still a sin.Go figure it doesn't compute.What a bunch of HIPPO-CITTS,key word being HIPPO!!!Dave...
Here's a challenge from another Bible-believing Christian: Take your complete concordance and check all references to "naked" or "nakedness." I did and, well, here I am!  And when call me a hypocrite, SMILE!
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gospel
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Posted - 08/22/2004 : 4:37:03 PM
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Jochanaan
Like you I got out the strong's concordance and did a study of all the words surrounding naked and came to the conclusion that there is no direct command against nudity. Nudity is governed by its impact on those around us and how they handle it. For instance, if I know that certain people around me would have a problem with me being nude I would not partake in that setting. Then there are some that would have a very hard time even discussing the topic in an open positive way and with those I don't even bring up the subject.(like my adult children)So, what I have read in these forums apply, that nudity carries with it the mandate to be responsible about it both in public and in the clubs and resorts. We don't go nude where it is inappropriate and we don't get in the face of those who don't see it our way.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 08/23/2004 : 09:10:11 AM
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Excellent response Gospel, I think you have hit the nail on the head.
Kim =^.^=
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Jochanaan
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Posted - 09/18/2004 : 10:39:53 PM
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I know what you mean, gospel! (Sorry for the late response; I haven't been here for a while.) You get the sense that some people would slap you all the way out the door! Others seem open, but when you bring it up the temperature suddenly drops below freezing. Fortunately I've had some good reactions from a few friends.
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STRETCH
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Posted - 10/14/2004 : 10:46:08 AM
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Gospel, everything you said has a lot of truth in short "where you hang your hat - you live." As an ex-police officer and a retired correctional officer, there is the other retrospec where a few wish to make their views so outragiously known that that they're willing to break the law instead of leaving law abiding citizens alone. Then you a few low-life's who tend to make something so beautiful into rape, malestation, and the promotion of same through pornography. Simple fact is nudism/naturalism is the purest way of expressing freedom and life. I'm a nubie at this but is so clear!
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gospel
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Posted - 10/16/2004 : 09:08:44 AM
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Stretch, It is true for every good thing in life there are those who can and will make something bad or offensive out of it. Like you I am somewhat a nubie at it but as I look back over most of my life I realize that what I love to most is freedom and nudism is the ultimate form of physical freedom. What I think madison ave. has done is to use the carrot of sexuality to appeal to us to buy things, but that appeal(of their advertising) is really a root of the desire to experience freedom and fulfilment. However, to me true freedom is to be able to live with a clear conscience and peaceful relationships. I find those things in my relationship with Jesus Christ.
Gospel
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Kauai1
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Posted - 10/17/2004 : 7:03:56 PM
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Thank you Gospel. And Stretch, I'll hang my hat on IT, too. Way too much is made about being nude. Unfortuntly, we didn't carryover the European genes of nudity when our ancestors came to the U.S. of A.
Nudism in Europe is no problem and no hassle. Women can go topless almost anywhere (beaches & lakes/forests), and Amsterdam welcomes free expression. Families can enjoy a nude weekend away from a small apartment in the city and the experience of a beach, lake and sun - together. Guess that's why the rape and child abuse ratio is so much less in Europe than in the U.S.
I do believe in GEORGE W. BUSH for our next President, but I would like to believe he can believe in NUDE people being nude, not crude.
kauai time
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Cheri
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Posted - 10/18/2004 : 10:13:41 AM
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As long as Ashcroft is our atty. gen., we can be fearful of losing what c/o beaches we have.
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STRETCH
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Posted - 10/18/2004 : 12:32:58 PM
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Gospel/Cheri, we the power within us all with GODS help as long as we don't abuse the sanctity of nudity and what it stands for. Being new to this I'm looking at the simplistic beauty of it all. It's possible carefree attitude, it's free artistic demeaner and what appeals to me as a potential healthy envirnment.
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okeedokkee
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Posted - 11/11/2004 : 11:39:34 AM
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religious people talk about others just as much as we heathens. In some instances they are quicker to throw the first stone....
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/11/2004 : 4:45:26 PM
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okeedokkee, Not all religious people are anti-nudists. I for one am very religious.
Sex may sell products, but that's not what nudism is about (just to keep on topic).
Cheri
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bornnude
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Posted - 11/12/2004 : 08:05:47 AM
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Originally posted by Cheri
okeedokkee, Not all religious people are anti-nudists. I for one am very religious.
And obviously not all "non-religious" people are pro-nudist.
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