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Cheri
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Posted - 08/12/2005 : 12:04:56 PM
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quote: Originally posted by bornnude
I found this, having nothing to do with nudist activities (I hope) but a lot to do with this subject. 18% of respondants put "intimate" relations as a favorite thing on a beach.
Keep them on the clothed end
Yahoo had a survey on "Top Sands" (http://travel.yahoo.com/beaches)
Top 5 activities 1. Having a party or BBQ - 44% 2. Building sandcastles - 29% 3. Having a cocktail - 32% 4. Having "intimate" relations -18% 5. Flying a kite - 13%
I'm glad the title of this survey wasn't what do you like doing on a nude beach as # 4 is totally inappropriate. Cheri
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Kip
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Posted - 11/09/2005 : 10:47:59 PM
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Wow, it was touched on in the beginning of this thread but it seems to have quickly been tossed under the rug.
We as nudists all have our own reason for doing what we do and I know I get very irritated when someone tells me "You can't do that because I find it offensive"
Yes, it may be rude, yes it may be trashy, yes it may be insert whatever you want here but it is thier choice to do it and your choice to not watch it.
Many nudist, naturalist, again insert own title here, think that what they do and how they do it is the only REAL way. Wrong. It is only your REAL way. Some nautrualist may take it to the next extreme, what is more natural than sex. All species on the planent do it one way or the other. Is that not the "true" naturalist?
I just think that all people should be free to do as they wish, not as they wish as long as you approve of it.
I realize some may think I have submitted my personal opinion however I assure you I have not. Merely stated another possible view.
Kip
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Cheri
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 11:55:07 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Kip
(snip) We as nudists all have our own reason for doing what we do and I know I get very irritated when someone tells me "You can't do that because I find it offensive"
Yes, it may be rude, yes it may be trashy, yes it may be insert whatever you want here but it is thier choice to do it and your choice to not watch it. Many nudist, naturalist, again insert own title here, think that what they do and how they do it is the only REAL way. Wrong. It is only your REAL way. Some nautrualist may take it to the next extreme, what is more natural than sex. All species on the planent do it one way or the other. Is that not the "true" naturalist? (snip)
Kip
Kip, If you mean naturalist, then that might be another topic all together.
Inappropriate, overt sexuality has closed down several beaches. If this behaviour is not curtailed, we'll lose a lot more. Cheri
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NudeAl
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 11:57:14 AM
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Posted by Kip,
Quote, "Some nautrualist may take it to the next extreme, what is more natural than sex. All species on the planent do it one way or the other. Is that not the "true" naturalist?"
First off it's NATURIST! A naturalist is one who studies plants and animals wildlife etc. A naturist is someone who enjoys being nude whenever possible.
As to your remark that they are just taking that to the next level, that just happens to be the level where most of us here on these boards would support and appreciate law enforcement arresting them. Such an arrest would likely result in their having to register as a sex offender.
If you can't manage to seperate nudity and sex you don't have a very good understanding of the concepts of nudism or naturism. If you choose to be an exhibitionist if that's your thing. Just do it somewhere other than a nude destination. We have enough pre-conceived notions by the general public of us as a bunch of sex crazed nymphos as it is.
I suggest you and anyone else who enjoys public sex find a group of like minded individuals and go form your own organization and keep nudism and naturism seperate. I don't judge you. I am just concerned that the actions of a very small minority are used as justification for closing down our nude destinations.
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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NudeAl
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 12:05:36 PM
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Quote, "Kip, If you mean naturalist, then that might be another topic all together."
Good one Cheri! Perhaps he spends to much time watching Animal Planet or the Discovery Channel. lol
"The best dress for walking is nakedness." Colin Fletcher
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old hippie
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Posted - 11/10/2005 : 1:50:42 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Kip
Wow, it was touched on in the beginning of this thread but it seems to have quickly been tossed under the rug.
We as nudists all have our own reason for doing what we do and I know I get very irritated when someone tells me "You can't do that because I find it offensive"
Kip
I'm not clear on what got swept under the rug, but the point of polite behavior is just that : politeness. It's not that I find it offensive; the point is that most of those on the beach find it offensive. Nudity does not grant total liberty - just because we are naked, that would not give me license to use your beach towel for a bathroom, or to carve my initials in your back while you were sunning.
Note the other suggestions, such as the notion that if a couple were engaged in lovemaking in a secluded location, discreetly away from others, maybe on a starlight night -- most people would not get riled about it. But it goes beyond the boundaries of considerate behaviour to put on a display of carnal activity without giving others the chance to avoid it. This isn't a TV channel we can turn off, unless someone is willing to go over and confront the offenders (this has mixed reviews).
. I'm sure such activities would not be accepted on a textile beach, so that is a good indication that it won't be accepted at a nude beach.
musings from the Old Hippie
Dum vivimus, vivamus!
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bornnude
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Posted - 11/11/2005 : 08:29:41 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Kip
Wow, it was touched on in the beginning of this thread but it seems to have quickly been tossed under the rug.
We as nudists all have our own reason for doing what we do and I know I get very irritated when someone tells me "You can't do that because I find it offensive"
Yes, it may be rude, yes it may be trashy, yes it may be insert whatever you want here but it is thier choice to do it and your choice to not watch it.
The other problem is "Yes it may be illegal". There are places where sex is permissible on beaches, etc, (see http://nudist-resorts.org/talk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1788) but most places in the United States, it is not the case. As Cheri mentioned, people tend to be reactionary. The thinking process is something like....
They are naked... They are having sex in the open while naked... Obvious, being naked is the cause so let's ban it!
We have a hard enough time convincing those that oppose recreational nudity that nudity != sex ( != is not equal) without some insensitive couple trashing months and years of work.
The reactionary side of me thinks... If you want to have sex on the beach, go to the clothed side where you don't risk my rights or abilities to be naked there. (Maybe if enough people "misbehaved" there and "behaved" on the nude side, all beaches would become nude acceptable -- Ok, only dreaming)
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chuckd1660
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Posted - 03/21/2006 : 12:15:26 PM
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Having been on many French beaches I have never seen sex on a beach and do not really want to. It gives those people who disapprove of the naturist way a lot of ammunition toi try to get it nude sunbathing banned. I could not condone it.
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freecplnAr
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Posted - 03/21/2006 : 1:29:26 PM
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The exhibitionists have places they can go. There are "Lifestyles" clubs where you are permitted to view others in sexual acts or have sex in view of others. These people are not nudists, they are exhibitionists and voyeurs. They should be kept off socially nude beaches and resorts. As it has been stated, they give our lifestyle a huge black eye! As far as my wife and I are concerned, we don't unless it is at home in the backyard or something. Never around others or where someone might walk up and find us.
Thank God it's almost warm!!
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MacBC
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Posted - 05/30/2006 : 03:16:21 AM
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A couple of irresponsible guys almost cost us our local beach after they were seen and reported. Fer goodness sakes, I hope they don't ruin it for the rest of us, just so they can have a few moments of fun!!!!!
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Grunt
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Posted - 08/04/2006 : 6:22:54 PM
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I've never witnessed couples openly having sex on the beach, but I've just returned from a holiday at a naturist resort in Spain and one day there were a couple of girls on the beach.
Both were early 20's and pretty, but couldn't keep their hands off each other. I must admitI took great pleasure in watching, unlike my wife who thought it revolting. She asked how I'd feel if they were two men, I said I'd probably throw up, but girls are different.
Apart from that, I've never seen any public hanky panky on the beach. We've seen it at naturist spas, many times.
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FireProf
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Posted - 08/04/2006 : 10:34:27 PM
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Marianna Handler, she was known as the San Onofre Beach "Beach Mom" by many of us on San O beach near San Clemente, CA.
She once told me and my wife, after we commented on seeing people having sex on our nude beach and we said nothing to them, that she'd like to give me a scenerio and asked me to think about it the next time we saw someone doing this and we don't say anything.
Scenerio; You arrive at your favorite nude beach. Walk the 1/2 mile or more to your favorite place, only to find a Ranger there handing out tickets to your friends or regulars you've come to know at the "once" nude section of your favorite beach. You find out that they shut down the nude sunbathing because of the sexual activity that was happening and it got to be so blatant the authorities stopped all nude use entirely.
Your friends and aquaintances now have tickets, you can no longer use this beach nude as you have for years and there is no other nude beach to visit for 100's of miles.
She then asked my wife and I, what will you do next time you see someone having sex on our nude beach? I answered, " I get the point and will never turn my head or go without saying anything to them or report them to the Rangers again."
Something as simple as saying "please stop what you are doing. Your activity threatens nude use of this beach for everyone. If you do not stop, you will force me to call the Rangers and have you escorted off the beach. Nude use of this beach means that much to many, many people."
We have and we continue to speak up to this date after our talk with Marianna. She's moved away to be closer to family but her values live on with many of us at our nude beach.
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Sloboy
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Posted - 08/05/2006 : 7:26:37 PM
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Fire Prof.
Your sharing your discussion and the anology thereof, is correct and to the point. Problem is, I read more and increasing experiences on Yahoo San Onfre and it disturbs me. Fortunately for me, I have not seen such open engagement, but I would hate to lose the San O and the open connection to be a Naturist. SLO
Everyday is another reason to be yourself. So "Smile! Be Happy!"
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FireProf
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Posted - 08/06/2006 : 12:24:41 AM
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Sloboy,
You are correct. I've heard the same and it's because some of the regulars have either just given up or now enjoy the voyeuristic aspect of this.
At any rate, those of us hell bent on doing what we can to keep San O available to us nudists will continue to open our mouths and shake our fingers and alert the Rangers when needed.
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Rahul7009
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Posted - 08/12/2006 : 02:07:37 AM
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There is no problem in having sex on the beach, just take care that no one feels offended.
~~[({<RAHUL>})]~~
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