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Kimberly
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 Posted - 04/26/2004 : 06:50:53 AM
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That is the best way Calmnude, and when your through with them, destroy the evidence!
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papabare
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Posted - 04/27/2004 : 10:44:04 PM
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I agree with you both. But objectionable parts can be (and in some cases HAVE been) the chest of a 3 year old female. Or someones backside. Its hard to take pictures of kids that dont show objectionable parts when almost every body part can be objectionable. But I do do as Calmnude sugested and use digital cameras. I go through anything that might be questionable and either crop em to be unquestionable or just nuke em. I would rather have faint memeroies of my childrens early years, then years in jail cause someone didnt understand our value system and our morals and called the cops 
In my view, better safe then sorry. I would love to have to NOT think like that but I have seen too many peoples lives get messed up because someone thought they were helping 
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Kimberly
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 04:09:16 AM
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Does anyone rember the coppertone ad where the doggy is pulling down the little girls bathing suit bottom? I understand that the woman who was a little girl at the time she modled for that painting is suing!
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vealj
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 10:39:05 AM
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I've searched all over the web and can find nothing about a lawsuit by this woman.
In 1959 the Little Miss Coppertone GirlŪ was Cheri Brand whose mother, Joyce Brand, was a commercial illustrator. Her mother made a drawing from a photograph taken of 3 year old Cheri in their back yard. This drawing became the infamous billboard ad.
Jodie Foster got her start in a Coppertone TV commercial at age 6, however, she was not the one on the billboard ad nor did she go nude on the TV spots.
Take care and ...
Keep it Bare !!!
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papabare
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Posted - 04/28/2004 : 11:24:10 PM
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I had heard that somewhere too Kim, not sure if it is Internet Urban Legend or not, but I thought I heard it on a news show.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/01/2004 : 07:37:02 AM
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That is where I heard it, on a TV news show.
My mom has a set of baby pictures of my dad. There are four black and white 5" X 6" pictures in a frame. The pictures were made at a professional studio like Olan Mills. Two of the pictures show him lying on his tummy in the nude. The only vital parts you see is the pictures are the crack in his gluteus maximus. I belive he was six months old at the time. I think the pictures are cute and understand a lot of baby pictures were made like that back then, but I see nothing wrong with them. Evidently a lot of people went a lot further than that , so I guess thats why the clamp down of nude pictures of kids.
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papabare
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Posted - 05/02/2004 : 9:23:31 PM
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Its the way of society, the few bad apples in the bunch ruin the apple sauce. (Ok, that was a bad analogy, but I couldn't think of anything else )
I have seen pictures of my grandmother, my mother, and myself all like that Kim, the first two were proffesionally done, mine was my aunt (Who was a professional aswell, but wasnt done in studio). My aunt also had pictures of her kids being kids, she said she would laugh in thier face if they tried to lock her up for them :)
I dunno, I dont like the idea of jail
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/03/2004 : 04:22:43 AM
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There is a lot of child pornography on the net, a lot of pictures out of Eastern Europe, and the Orient. I guess our law makers can not dertermine which is porn (abuse for money), and what are just natural nudist pictures. But in order to be safe you just don't take nude pictures of your kids.
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bornnude
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Posted - 05/03/2004 : 06:34:23 AM
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It is easier for the lawmakers and enforcement when they don't have to make judgment calls. The problem is when it makes them or the public look just plain stupid.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 03:22:42 AM
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Bornnude they would just have to make it some way where it wasn't profitalbe for the people who deal in kiddie porn.
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bornnude
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Posted - 05/04/2004 : 07:31:56 AM
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Originally posted by Kimberly
Bornnude they would just have to make it some way where it wasn't profitalbe for the people who deal in kiddie porn.
Kim =^.^=
That is one of the arguments I have seen for legalization of drugs. Not sure how it would work for kiddie porn. I think I would not like seeing that legalized.
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Kimberly
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Posted - 05/05/2004 : 03:18:03 AM
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No bornnude and I would not like to see it legalized either, but how do you curtail something like that without infringing on the rights of other people?
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The Bead Man
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Posted - 05/05/2004 : 2:43:41 PM
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Kim,
The issue is probably not one of legalization, but of definition of the boundaries of acceptable behaviour.
The same pictures of (merely) naked children could be innocent to some people (e.g. their parents) and pornographic in intent to others (such as people trading them on the Internet). Although there is unfortunately a grey area in between, the law could easily exclude people taking pictures of their own family (or having them developed) for their own private use from prosecution. A minimal amount of training of photo shop staff (or at least the managers) would allow them to distinguish such innocent situations from, say, someone ordering 200 copies of staged naked photos.
Cheers!
David
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The Bead Artist formerly known as Revilo42
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papabare
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Posted - 05/05/2004 : 11:15:57 PM
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They could have stick figure photo references.
"If they are posed like this, this, this, or THIS it is illegal, anything else is ok."
Or only hire nudists
I read a stat somewhere that there was less (reported) child abuse per capita in (I believe) Denmark/The Neatherlands then anywhere else while there was no ban on any pornography, animal, child, whatever. Not the kind of thing I would want happining here or anywhere else frankly, but it does make you wonder. It is the whole thing of the want of the 'Forbidden'. Maybe in the next few years, when computer graphics get even better, someone will market the idea of build your own porn, it can be whatever, no animals, humans, cadavers, aliens, or fairy tale creatues get exploited or harmed in the making of the porn and the people who would otherwise find a release with a non-fiction entity can be sated in the saftey (Our Saftey more then Thiers) of thier own home/hole/burrow/whatever.
That could mean the downfall of the adult entertainment industry as we know it, aswell as all the underground stuff aswell.
Me, I am gonna stick to real life women over the age of 20something
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nudeboy
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Posted - 05/06/2004 : 06:25:28 AM
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There is alot of controversy about nude pics of children,and its only right that children are protected as they are totally innocent little people.
I have taken pics of my two angels in the bath,the water covering them from the waist down.Probably every other parent has the same type of pics,including babies laying on their tummies with talcum powder on their little behinds.
These pics are good to bring out when the child grows up and can be shown to future son/daughter in-laws lol lol .
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